1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:25,000 I always knew the stories about the curse of Lickloneer. 2 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,000 It's always been the creepy, like the haunted lake. 3 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,000 You know, you're brave if you go there. 4 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,000 But I was kind of skeptic, so I didn't really think anything of it. 5 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:44,000 And then in 2020, my family, you know, we were hanging out at the lake. 6 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:50,000 We tried to catch some fish and it wasn't really active. 7 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 So we were like, let's go into water. 8 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 You know, you're brave if you go there. 9 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,000 It's a challenge to go there. 10 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,000 So ever since I was little, basically, it was very cold. 11 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Like very, very, very cold. 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,000 With the kids that we had with us, we were playing Marco Polo. 13 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Marco Polo! 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,000 And we started drifting out more and more. 15 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Marco Polo! 16 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,000 As I was out there in the deeper waters, I noticed my feet couldn't touch the ground, but I could swim. 17 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,000 As I was swimming, I saw something at my foot. 18 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,000 I thought it was a fish, because you know, you're in the lake. 19 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,000 And then I felt something grab around my ankle and yank me real fast. 20 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,000 And the water completely went over my head. 21 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 I started freaking out. 22 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,000 It happened with a span of a few seconds, but it felt like a tourney. 23 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,000 And then I shot back up. 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,000 But when I did, because of my asthma, I couldn't breathe. 25 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:45,000 My little brother saw me and he swam out there and got me. 26 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,000 I didn't think people would believe me when I got to the shore. 27 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,000 And so I didn't tell anybody at first. 28 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:59,000 And then I found it was very common for other people to feel like they're getting pulled under. 29 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,000 As they said by angry spirits. 30 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,000 I haven't been in the lake since. 31 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:22,000 I know it sounds crazy, but it's not normal lake at all. 32 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:41,000 30 miles outside Atlanta, Georgia lies a lake shrouded in mystery. 33 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Some say it's haunted. 34 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Others say it's cursed. 35 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,000 But its true story in history may be even more unsettling. 36 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:13,000 The numbers of times that linear dive recovery gets called to come find a wallet, a phone, a wedding ring, keys. 37 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,000 37 wedding rings to date. Can you believe that? 38 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Lake Linear is a man made lake and one of the largest man made lakes in the country. 39 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,000 It has 692 miles of shoreline. 40 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Deepest part of the lake is 156 feet deep. 41 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,000 The lake was originally built for power generation. 42 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Back in the late 1940s, the Corps of Engineers was commissioned to come out here and to design and lay out the lake. 43 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:44,000 The biggest town in the south is Atlanta, a capital of the state of Georgia. 44 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Atlanta was growing exponentially. 45 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:53,000 I think it jumped up something from like 14,000 people to 200,000 people within just a few short years. 46 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:59,000 So they needed a place to get the water resources that the city was going to need. 47 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Lake Linear is fed by two primary rivers, the Chattahoochee and the Chess City Rivers. 48 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:11,000 And when they built the lake, there were a lot of roads, bridges, there were a lot of single family homes, mostly farmers. 49 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,000 And those people moved to other places. 50 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Most wanted to do it because of the development that it would provide. 51 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:27,000 The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers started buying up a lot of the land and ground was broke in 1950. 52 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:35,000 And the dam was finished around 1954 and then the lake was officially filled around 1957. 53 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:46,000 This is a beautiful, beautiful lake and it has so much to offer, which is why we have so many people that come and visit every year. 54 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,000 There are over 10 million visitors that come to Lake Linear every year. 55 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,000 They're expecting even more this year, so there are a huge number of people coming in. 56 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:07,000 The lake has now become the go-to spot for Atlantans looking to cool off from the summer heat. 57 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:12,000 But as its popularity grows, so do the rumors. 58 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:19,000 Before working for the Corps, I've never really heard any folklore about Linear outside of it existing. 59 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:24,000 But within 30 seconds of having an office there, they immediately got all kinds of stories. 60 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,000 The main stories were the drownings. 61 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,000 11 people have died in drowning or boating accidents on Lake Linear this year. 62 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,000 Crews are working to recover two men from Lake Linear. 63 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,000 They reported drowning. 64 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Another drowning yesterday afternoon. 65 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Two more deaths at Lake Linear over the holiday weekend. 66 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:45,000 And it wasn't normal drownings, like someone messed up and that's just their demise. 67 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,000 It was, you know, a creepy vibe. 68 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,000 He jumped into the water, but he never came up. 69 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,000 She disappeared after jumping off a boat into the lake. 70 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,000 He went under and so far hasn't resurfaced. 71 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Even though it is large, when you hear almost 20 people die in a year in one particular spot, 72 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,000 then, yeah, rumors and folklore do kind of start to fly. 73 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:20,000 The folklore centers around the paranormal and questions whether or not ghosts may be responsible for the deaths. 74 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Since the inception of Lake Linear in the late 1950s, 75 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:47,000 there have been something like 700 people that died and more than 200 people since 1990. 76 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,000 And there are supposedly some bodies that have never been recovered. 77 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,000 It's a place and source of controversy over the years. 78 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,000 And when I first moved here, I was involved with the Ghost Walk. 79 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Where storytellers told stories of paranormal activity that goes on around the lake. 80 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 And that was very popular. 81 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Mine in particular was the Lady in the Lake. 82 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:24,000 There have been many stories of people having seen an apparition on the Highway 53 bridge. 83 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:30,000 A lady wandering around there wearing a blue dress. 84 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:40,000 And they thought that perhaps that the apparition was related to a young woman's body that had been found 85 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,000 right beside the bridge in the blue dress. 86 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 At the time, they couldn't figure out who she was. 87 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:56,000 But people speculated that it might have been Delia Young who disappeared with Susie Roberts about 18 months earlier. 88 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:06,000 They were both young mothers and they were going to go over to this nightclub over on the Forsyth County side of the lake 89 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,000 and dance the night away. 90 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,000 So they went over there and they had a big time evidently. 91 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Delia in her borrowed blue dress that she thought was so pretty. 92 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:30,000 And they left to go home and get back in time to take care of their families. 93 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,000 They stopped for gas at a gas station on the way back. 94 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,000 And that was the last anybody saw of them. 95 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,000 After they turned up missing, people looked along the road there. 96 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,000 But they really didn't find anything. 97 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,000 And so it just seemed to be that they disappeared in the thin air. 98 00:08:54,000 --> 00:09:05,000 I think it was Delia Young's brother who said that when the body was found, about 18 months after their disappearance, 99 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:10,000 he felt something pass over him and he knew it was his sister. 100 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:17,000 We are on location where the lady in the blue dress is supposed to have haunted these waters. 101 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,000 And a lot of people claim in the early morning hours or the fog and stuff, 102 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,000 they see a woman walking across the bridge in a blue dress. 103 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,000 And I've spent lots of nights out on the lake and I've never seen her. 104 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Yeah, I've never seen her either. 105 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:34,000 So then they were working on the bridge in 1990. 106 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,000 As I recall, as they were setting some of the pilings down, they ran into something, 107 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,000 sent divers down and sure enough they found the car and there was Susie Roberts. 108 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Apparently they had gone to a party and as they were coming back, 109 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,000 the car ran off the road, both drowned in the car. 110 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,000 And as far as we're concerned, mystery solved. 111 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,000 And they were looking for a car. 112 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,000 Both drowned in the car and as far as we're concerned, mystery solved. 113 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,000 So when Susie Roberts was identified in 1990, 114 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,000 they realized that the body that had been found many years before was D.O. Young. 115 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:23,000 But she was really identified by default and that's a tragedy in and of itself. 116 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,000 I have heard people saying, like, oh yeah, we were on a lake at night. 117 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,000 I was all laid in blue dress. 118 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:34,000 I personally haven't seen the lady in blue dress, but after what happened to me, I don't doubt it. 119 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,000 There have been many cases of people camping out around the lake, 120 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,000 having seen paranormal activity, ghost activity. 121 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 People losing things that they couldn't really explain 122 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:58,000 and having people show up around their campfires that they seem to be there and then not. 123 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,000 If you go on any sort of social media, like TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, 124 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,000 you'll see plenty of comments about how Lake Lanier is haunted. 125 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,000 What's this about Lake Lanier? 126 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,000 That sucker's haunted and cursed. 127 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,000 You know anything about Lake Lanier? 128 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,000 You know this is haunted. 129 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,000 The lake is literally full of dead bodies. 130 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,000 There are several stories like that. 131 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:25,000 And people speculated about the fact that when the lake was formed, 132 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,000 it covered all these cemeteries. 133 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,000 I think there are 20 cemeteries that are covered up. 134 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Some of the bodies are moved, but just like Baltergeist, not all of them. 135 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,000 I could not. You don't get in Lake Lanier. 136 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,000 I don't even believe in ghosts and stuff, but that is such a no for me. 137 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,000 One of the questions that I get asked frequently is, are there graves under Lake Lanier? 138 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,000 And I have dove over 5,000 different dives on this lake. 139 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,000 I have seen every corner of it. 140 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,000 I've seen the bottom of it. 141 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,000 I probably have seen more of this lake than any other human being ever. 142 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Cover down. 143 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Well, I can assure you all of the known graves that were here at Lake Lanier were exhumed. 144 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Now I say that because if we go back to the Native American times, 145 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,000 this was a very popular place because of the rivers. 146 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,000 And there are certainly some unmarked graves from that time. 147 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,000 So some of those remains will still be here in the lake. 148 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,000 According to some myths and lore, 149 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,000 disturbing a Native American burial site can lead to misfortune. 150 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:38,000 In the case of Lake Lanier, multiple spiritual areas were flooded. 151 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Now some wonder if that has cast a dark cloud over the lake. 152 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:56,000 A lot of people believe that the spirits are angry. 153 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,000 And that's why they keep taking people under. 154 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:04,000 I don't want to say they won't revenge because I don't think they gain anything from it. 155 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:11,000 It could even be them reaching out for someone trying to get help, but taking lives instead. 156 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Most paranormal activity is usually attributed to tragic situations that have occurred. 157 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:22,000 And this area was associated with the Trail of Tears. 158 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:28,000 Both the Cherokee and the Creek Indians lived in that area, 159 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:33,000 and they were made to leave everything behind and walk to Oklahoma. 160 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:41,000 In 1830, Congress passed an act which forced the Native Americans of the Deep South 161 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:45,000 to relocate to reservations in Oklahoma. 162 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:53,000 The grueling journey that followed took the lives of roughly 15,000 Indigenous peoples, 163 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:58,000 which is why one chief deemed it the Trail of Tears and Death. 164 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:10,000 This was basically the last stop for the Trail of Tears. 165 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:18,000 My family is traced back to the Trail of Tears, both sides of my family. 166 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:24,000 And I have childhood memories of my family passing down the horror of those stories. 167 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:33,000 It's heartbreaking when you stop and realize that they made that trip and in the winter months. 168 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:40,000 And how difficult it must have been going a thousand miles 169 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,000 and leaving everything behind other than what they could carry. 170 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:53,000 I knew that it started in Georgia, and I couldn't even imagine how they ever made it. 171 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,000 To Weber's Falls. 172 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,000 It was a terrible, terrible tragedy. 173 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,000 The loss of their heritage, their lands. 174 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:12,000 And supposedly there are cases of people seeing Native American apparitions around the lake. 175 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:20,000 You would think that the more people are told that it's haunted, they would stay away from it. 176 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,000 But nowadays, people are drawn by that. 177 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,000 I went to Lake Lanier. I just wanted to see it for myself. 178 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,000 I'm from the Bronx, New York, home of hip-hop. 179 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:52,000 I came to Atlanta in 1994, and I picked up boating in 2015. 180 00:15:54,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Boating is cool, man. And I think there's a lot of barriers to entry already. 181 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:06,000 And folks shouldn't just be deterred because they say the lake is haunted, you know? No. 182 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,000 Like, haunting is there's ghosts. 183 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,000 I ain't seen no ghosts up here. 184 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,000 I think we gotta deal with the facts. 185 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:24,000 You can't come to Lake Lanier and just hop on a boat and think that you're gonna get home that night. 186 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Without no boat or safety or no training. 187 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Every time someone dies on this lake, nine times out of ten is because they didn't have a vest on. 188 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,000 Right? They're partying, they're drinking. 189 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:40,000 They're not reading the Coast Guard seaman ship manual. 190 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,000 You know what I mean? 191 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:51,000 I've had to rescue people on my jet skis, grown men that were out of shade or they're drunk. 192 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,000 So that's not being haunted, right? That's poor decision-making. 193 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,000 People need to take this place seriously. This is a dangerous lake to boat on. 194 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,000 We're gonna be down more than 20 minutes. I'm setting the maximum. 195 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,000 Robert's in charge of safety today. 196 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Yep. 197 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Alright. Dive her down. 198 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,000 Dive her down. 199 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,000 So many people come to me thinking that the lake is haunted. 200 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,000 When I travel to other cities even, they say, oh, you're at Lake Lanier. 201 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Wow, you know, that place is haunted. 202 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:29,000 And I can assure you with 100% certainty, it's not haunted, it is not cursed. 203 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:34,000 Unfortunately, one of the things that happens here on the lake is we do have people that drown. 204 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:39,000 Accidents do happen. This is one of the most dangerous lakes in the entire country. 205 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:46,000 When you get down below where there is no light at all, it's so hard to see. 206 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000 And it is very eerie. 207 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,000 We run into some of the strangest things when we're out there. 208 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,000 There's all kinds of things that can pop up. 209 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,000 The building is right here going this way. I'm right over the top of it. 210 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:09,000 Here's the dwelling that they're diving into here with multiple rooms. 211 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,000 There are a lot of things like this that are in Lake Lanier. 212 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,000 There are lots of old bridges. There are some remnants of old buildings. 213 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,000 There are some full grown trees down there on the bottom of the lake. 214 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Their trees are just like this. They are full grown, full standing. 215 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,000 Anything below 30 feet in water, you run into the trees. 216 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,000 A number of years ago, there was a drought. The lake went down 21 feet. 217 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,000 And you can see all kinds of stuff come up that people have never seen before. 218 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,000 There are literally old speedway stands. 219 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,000 But the speedway was a dirt track. 220 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,000 And that dirt track is just a little bit of a mess. 221 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,000 There were so many boating accidents that happened that year. It was unbelievable. 222 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,000 And I think we had one of the highest number of drownings that particular year. 223 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Because people were hitting these rocks and trees and things in their boats. 224 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000 And having fatal accidents. 225 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 I got you some souvenirs. 226 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,000 What is that? A wheelbarrow handle? 227 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,000 That's from a door frame. 228 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 I got you some souvenirs. 229 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000 I got you some souvenirs. 230 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000 That's from a door frame. 231 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,000 And that's a brick from the house. 232 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Unfortunately, we do get called out for having to do a drowning victim recovery. 233 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,000 And it's one of the sadder things that we do here at the lake. 234 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,000 We always try to bring closure to the families. 235 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Things like that happen. It's very, very sad. 236 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,000 But if more people took better boat or precautions, I think we'd have much safer lake. 237 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,000 I thought about a lot what's under there. 238 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,000 I always like explaining things scientifically or try to get a reason for it. 239 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,000 But I did get grabbed that day and pulled under the water. 240 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,000 And I don't have any explanations for it. 241 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000 It does get frustrating. 242 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,000 You know, when someone doesn't believe you. 243 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Sometimes I don't believe myself either, but it happened. 244 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,000 The truth is, if you are on the waters, even with a life jacket, 245 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,000 you just don't feel comfortable. 246 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Could the high number of drownings simply be a result of human error? 247 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,000 Or is there a more supernatural explanation? 248 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:37,000 Some locals point to another historic tragedy buried deep at the bottom of the lake 249 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,000 as the reason for these tragic deaths. 250 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Some people would suggest we're at Lake Lanier. 251 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Some people would say we're Gainesville. 252 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,000 But in actuality, we're in Oscarville. 253 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,000 It's literally underneath our feet. 254 00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Growing up, the kids try to scare each other about what's on the bottom of Lake Lanier. 255 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,000 It's just a little bit of a shock. 256 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Growing up, the kids try to scare each other about what's on the bottom of Lake Lanier. 257 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:14,000 It's trying to creep you out and like, oh, just let me know if you go in the lake, 258 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,000 you're swimming on top of a city. 259 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Which, I thought it was a joke at first, but turned out to be the truth. 260 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:25,000 It had churches, schools, banks of some sort. 261 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,000 But there's no marker for the historical value that was there. 262 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,000 Oscarville was a safe haven for African Americans in Forsyth County. 263 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Black people live there and white people live there. 264 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,000 I think as long as people stayed in their place, friendly to their neighbors, 265 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,000 they were able to have their farms, they were able to work in the cities, 266 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000 everybody could get along just fine. 267 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,000 When you look at Oscarville, there's not a lot I haven't found. 268 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,000 So we try to gather the materials that we can. 269 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,000 And then we do lean on oral history. 270 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,000 And then you put it all together and you come up with something that says, 271 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,000 maybe this is the whole story that needs to be told. 272 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:17,000 My mother told me the story about Oscarville. 273 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:22,000 My grandfather, Bird, he formed land over there. 274 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:27,000 They had some stores, black zones, some stores there. 275 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,000 And it was a good place to live. 276 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,000 Oscarville was a town where the African Americans had what they needed. 277 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,000 They were able to start their families and make a living there for themselves. 278 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,000 And they would help each other. 279 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:47,000 You know, if you're harvest, what coming in right where you can come and get some hours. 280 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,000 That's how they got along before the incident happened. 281 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,000 Things changed in 1912. 282 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,000 One woman woke up and said she saw a black man standing over her bed. 283 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000 That alarmed the white community. 284 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,000 A few days later, another young woman was found beaten and raped. 285 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000 Her name was May Crow. 286 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000 I think she was 19 years old. 287 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,000 And for some reason, it may have just been the habit of the times, 288 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,000 which it seems like it was. 289 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:24,000 If something like that occurred, the first place people went to investigate was to black community. 290 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Now, there was no evidence. She never regained consciousness. 291 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,000 So how do you know whom to blame? 292 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,000 And so they blamed three young African American males. 293 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,000 And one they took and they lynched even before there was a so-called trial. 294 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,000 And with that whole narrative of black men attacking white women, 295 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,000 white people decided that they had to cleanse the county. 296 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:53,000 And so they told black people to get your things together and get out. 297 00:23:54,000 --> 00:24:01,000 And they hung one of the men in town and they would just shoot at him throughout the day. 298 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,000 Great-granddaddy Bird did see all of this. 299 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:12,000 So you knew the danger of not leaving because something like that could possibly happen to you. 300 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,000 And so people had to leave. 301 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,000 They didn't have time to pull things together. 302 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,000 It was a matter of get out in the dead of night and leave Forsyth County. 303 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,000 The lake didn't exist at the time. It was the Chattahoochee River. 304 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,000 And they drove some of them to the riverbank and said, 305 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,000 swim for your life. 306 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,000 If you can cross that river, Chattahoochee, you can do whatever you want, 307 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,000 but you have to get out of here. 308 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,000 That was a bridge, but they weren't allowed to cross it. 309 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,000 You swim or drown. That was what they let them do. 310 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:51,000 Some went north and some went south, but Bird, my grandfather, came to Gainesville. 311 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Some of them didn't make it. 312 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,000 I'm not sure how many African-Americans were even there at the time, 313 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,000 but I hear a lot of heart-wrenching stories. 314 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:09,000 Everybody in this area knows about some family that had to leave in the dead of night, 315 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,000 who lost children, who lost brothers and sisters crossing the Chattahoochee. 316 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:22,000 When I think about it, I do get emotional because Bird Oliver's first wife and his two kids 317 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,000 died when he was fleeing Oskaville. 318 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,000 And you cannot go back to get them, so he had to keep going. 319 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:47,000 My grandmother told me that he sometimes would go out into the woods and sit by himself. 320 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:56,000 And maybe this was the time he was thinking about the law system, what he had to really go through. 321 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:03,000 And I'm sure he thought about, I had a house. I had always. Now I've got to start over. 322 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:11,000 And from what I understand, he wasn't angry. He probably looked at it well. 323 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:18,000 If I sit here and be angry about this matter, tomorrow I'm still going to be angry. 324 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000 I had to be a house. 325 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,000 So I tried to look at things in a positive way. That was nasty. It was awful. 326 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000 But look at what came out of it. 327 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,000 You know, all these people was my family. 328 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:53,000 Everyone has their different perception of Lake Lanier. Those that have that true connection may feel something 329 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,000 versus those that hear the story. 330 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:04,000 I remember renting an Airbnb off of Lake Lanier. And it was right there on the water. 331 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,000 And as I walked down, it was a different type of feeling. 332 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:16,000 It was like you knew something happened and you could, you can just feel it in your soul. 333 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:23,000 I have come up on this hill sometimes and just sit and you can feel certain things. 334 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:29,000 So I'm not going to argue the fact that there's not spiritual things on that lake. 335 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,000 And I can't prove it either. 336 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,000 When you talk about places that are haunted, Lake Lanier always comes up. 337 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,000 And when you Google Lake Lanier, you will come to Oscarville. 338 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:48,000 So it's hard to separate the two. And I don't think it's anything that's going to go away anytime soon. 339 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:59,000 I think this story is becoming more prevalent when it comes to social media and, you know, the TV show. 340 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,000 Atlanta even talked about it. 341 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000 I just feel like I was being pulled. 342 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000 It probably was. 343 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000 It probably was. 344 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,000 By what? 345 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,000 It's a whole town underneath us. 346 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:25,000 This is really how people see it. They really see it as the ancestors are the spirit coming to take you under. 347 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:32,000 So it was a little comical, but at the same time, do your research so you can see the whole truth. 348 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:39,000 The history of Lake Lanier will always be clouded in tragedy. 349 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:46,000 Whether or not those tragedies have cursed the area will always remain a mystery. 350 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:51,000 I would say if I didn't know the history of it, I would just think it was just a normal lake. 351 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,000 And people just love the scary stories to tell. 352 00:28:54,000 --> 00:29:00,000 But after all that happening to me, I would say, yeah, if any place to be haunted, it would be Lake Lanier. 353 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:14,000 The fact that people say that they see these sightings and stuff, and I'm like, what do I believe that you saw something unusual like a piece of trash, you know, floating through the air, you know, during a storm? 354 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:20,000 Sure. But in terms of people claiming to be dragged down to the bottom, they felt something pulling on their leg. 355 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,000 No, it's just silliness, absolute silliness. 356 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:38,000 I do believe that the dark history of Lake Lanier has a great deal to do with people's perception of perhaps paranormal or odd activity that goes on around the lake. 357 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,000 This atmosphere lends itself to those sorts of feelings. 358 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:51,000 I'm not going to buy into the whole haunted house thing, lady in the lake, you know, I'm just being real as to what it is. 359 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,000 Like this is a historical archaeological site. 360 00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:06,000 If you're just going to drive over this lake, over Oscarville and not, you know, acknowledge that, there's going to be a problem. 361 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Professionally do I think it's haunted? No, I don't. 362 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:16,000 But I have been told that the ancestors have long memories. 363 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,000 And sometimes things happen. 364 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,000 Some of the drownings at Lake Lanier, they're accidental. 365 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:29,000 But so much has happened that people are beginning to think, I wonder if that place is haunted. 366 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,000 Girl, you know what they did to Oscarville? That's probably coming back to get them. 367 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,000 So I think there might be a little truth in that.